1 piece vs. 3 piece slate pool table
It’s an age-old question: What’s better a three-piece slate pool table or a one-piece slate? Well, that all depends on who you’re asking.
If you ask a bar or pub owner, they’ll tell you that they often have to move their coin-operated pool tables around for special events. These coin-ops have a 3/4 inch one-piece slate for this reason. Moving a pool table in one piece can really mess up the seams where the three pieces meet on a three-piece slate. But, these commercial pool tables are constructed differently. The cabinet holding the slate wraps and hugs the slate, so that even when the table is tilted on its side (experience required), it remains locked into place. When the pool table is put back into position final leveling is dialed in by commercial-grade leg levelers.
If you ask an Aramith Fusion Pool Table owner, they’ll tell you they love having a 3/4 inch one-piece slate because it allows their pool table to lower to dining height, then raise again to playing height with a single click. These Fusion Tables, like the coin-operated ones, have a special frame that holds the slate snug. These Fusions don’t really move around the room, but the up and down motion of the legs necessitate the one-piece slate.
If you ask an owner of a one-piece slate furniture-style pool table, they will likely give you a different reason. When they purchased the table (around 35 years ago), they were told that a one-piece slate was far superior. A one-piece slate has no seams to affect the playing field. It is a perfectly smooth surface all the way across. This is true, but remember that smooth doesn’t always equal level.
If you’re asking me, a billiard mechanic with 24 years of experience moving all types of pool tables, I’ll tell you it is a pain in the behind to struggle with a one-piece slate. One-piece slates weigh approximately 450 pounds. They are difficult to maneuver when refelting your pool table. They are more difficult to move through hallways, narrow doorways, and corners. When there are stairs involved while moving a one-piece slate, it is not just tricky, but downright dangerous carrying all of that weight. This is why it costs more to move or service these types of tables.
I can also tell you that there is a performance downside to owning a one-piece slate pool table. There is the issue of leveling the playing surface. Not all slate is perfect. There can be natural low or high spots in the stone. Especially on the bigger 8′ slate pieces. No amount of shimming or tweaking can remove these.
Three-piece slates tend to be at least 1/4″ thicker than their one-piece cousins. Thicker slates have fewer imperfections and are usually permanently framed with pieces of wood to further support them when atop the pool table cabinet. Three and four-piece slates start out as one piece but are cut during the milling process. They are a matched set left to the billiard mechanic to level properly. Experienced mechanics must take great caution when leveling multiple pieces of slate. They must take into consideration the type of flooring and construction of the cabinet that will support all of the weight.
A three-piece slate, leveled properly, will without a doubt give you superior play. This is why the pros prefer to shoot on a three-piece slate pool table as opposed to a one-piece. I’d recommend a three-piece slate over one solid slate if given the choice. But, remember, no matter the value, number of slates, or style of table, proper professional setup is key to getting the best possible roll.
Not sure where you got the weight mentioned for pool table slate, but it seems far off of actuality (other than on a 7 foot coin table) the weight difference between 7,8,8,10&12 foot tables are increasingly more heavy (and most 12foot have become 4 sections to assist in moving the table). then comes the difference in slate thickness 1/2 inch (used on most tables from china) to 1&1/2 inch (commonly used on Brunswick or coolly tables). Alone just the thickness of slate can increase the weight drastickly ranging from 4th lbs (on cheap tables) up too 700lbs+(on better quality tables)
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where are the dates on antique pool tables
We consider tables pre-1950’s to be antique. But, antiques from the late 1800’s to early 1900’s typically require special care and tools. There are also antique replicas with more modern reproduction dates.
Hi if you can provide me one slate 8 inch pool table
Sorry we don’t stock 8 inch pool tables. :)
Shifting a 8×4 on friday about 40 miles, we will be using a car transporting trailer with tyres underneath for support. Is this a feasible way of moving a 1 pce slate table. It will be held down with ratchet straps.
hello marc, are you just removing the legs from the base frame?
Yeah mate, has 6 legs, will lay it flat on tyres, got 4 blokes organised for the lift, does it sound ok?
Okay Mark I see what you’re talking about now it sounds like it’s a very heavy pool table if it has six legs I would recommend strongly that you do not pick up the pool table from the rails rather remove the rails entirely from the slate surface so that there’s no chance one of your blokes might try lifting from the rails and possibly cracking the slate it sounds doable what you’re referring to to transport the pool table without its legs flat on tires to absorb any kinds of shock or vibration way to go bro
Well Marc, how did it go?
Yeah mate, all good, the tyres work a treat, have played about 50 games so far and it rolls perfectly. The cushions will need to be refurbished but apart from that, its all sweet as bro, cheers for the help?
Just moved a 3 piece slate murrey table can see slate and wax on outside underneath local billard place without seeing told me cheap walmart table Murray told them check spelling took 12 guys to pick up and mover 15 feet to and off trailor in home all bolted with 9 1/16 bolts is it a cheap table ? Price was from family how can I tell
Murrey, not Murray. Slate table, three piece slate. Not cheap. Do not move in one piece.
I have a 3 piece slate two of the pieces got stuck on top of each other the glue dried and are stuck together how do I get them apart? Help
Hi Chris, yeah that’s happened to me before. What I’ve done is to tap into a few hardwood wedge in between the slates. Make sure you space theM out a bit and be careful when you hammer them in so that you don’t Crack the slate. Do a little at a time should be fine.
Good times, Dave.
I’ll give it a shot….
Thanks for your help!!!!
Would you happen to know where i could sell my one peice slates and at what price would you recommend?
Sorry Lee, the only one piece slate that has any real value would be a 43×83 inch as this size is typically used in 7 foot coin-op pool tables. If this is what you have I’d say it is worth $150 in excellent condition.
Good luck, PTK.
Does anybody have any info on a Fischer pool table? I have serial number but can’t find anything on it. It’s a 3 piece slate top thanks
To the best of my knowledge all Fischer pool tables made before the 1980’s are one piece slate.
Hay im going to go move a 2 pice skate pool table with my dad its 4ft by 8ft and has 4 legs we are using a truck and some tie downs we are also going to take some tools to remove legs and parts off the table dose anyone know what tools you need to remove the legs and rails?
Please do not try to take off the legs to load the table. Remove rails first. Please see our How to Move a Pool Table Guide
I have a small opening to my basement, what’s the demensions if each piece of slate on a three piece slate table
An eight foot slate measures around 51″.
I have an 8′ 3 piece slate pool table I need to move so new carpet can be laid. Can it be moved safely with a table Jack? Thanks, Bill
Yes Bill, as long as you jack the pool table from the side of the frame just high enough to slip a dollie underneath each leg and repeat this for the other side. Please take care, PTK.
We just acquired a Brunswick pool table. It says model is dl8 and serial number 1432. We are trying to find some information on it. Know where I could? Thanks
Shauna, have you tried searching Brunswick Billiards website? I have never heard of this model pool table before. Best, PTK.
I’m wanting to go get an 8ft leisure bay pool table. Can it be moved in one peice
Tammy, great question. Hopefully this pool table is in a room with doors that are wider than 56 inches and there are no steps along the exit route. On the receiving end you will need the same prerequisite in order to move a pool table without disassembling it. My best advice to you would be to break down the pool table before moving it. For more info on how to move a pool table you can visit the FAQ section on my website. Good luck, PTK.
I have a late ’30’s / early ’40’s Brunswick 20th Century table, 8′, 3 piece slate, in pretty nice condition. Do you think that $1k is too high an asking price?
I think that’s a very fair price.
I’ve got a Minnesota Fats 8′ that’s got slatron, which looks like laminated countertop under my felt. Is it possible to get slate or fit 3 piece slate onto this table?
The short answer is no.
The longer answer: Non-slate pool tables are usually not constructed to withstand the weight of real slate. Trying to strengthen the table to accept slate likely would not be cost-effective. Place your time and effort into saving cash for a new or gently used slate pool table.
Hi, I’m trying to buy back the pool table our family had when I was a kid. I’m quite sure it’s a brunswick gold crown 8 or 9 ft 1 piece slate. The seller is pretty much giving it to me, but my first quote to have it moved was $1500. Does that seem reasonable? I’m trying to get a second quote, and this company is insisting it’s not a 1 pc, but I know it is. The $1500 quote company seems very knowledgeable. The guy stated he is a Brunswick certified master technician, and explained the reason behind the price very thoroughly.
Hi Mike, if it’s a Brunswick gold crown it’s not a 1 piece slate. $1500 for moving a 3pc slate sounds about $1000 too much unless there are a lot of stairs involved. However if for some reason you have a one piece slate pool table then moving costs go up and especially when there are stairs to deal with.
Best wishes, DK.
I am wanting a 8 or 9 ft table for my new man cave. Can you tell me if a second floor that has 25foot. 14in OSB joists (16in apart on center) is strong enough to support it and a few guys near it? Only asking because I have heard yes and no, you need a support beam down the center.
I’d consult a contractor. There’s a bit of difference in weight between an 8 and 9 foot table, but some tables can weigh 1000 lbs. It’s going to depend on the frame, slate thickness and size of a “few guys”.
We are pool table experts, not architects. ?Best of luck!
I have an older 8ft imperial and I need to replace the slate. I’m not having luck finding websites, any recommendations?
Is there a particular reason you need to replace the slate? Damaged slate can most times be fixed.
Please contact us directly if you are in the Orange County Area. Or, contact your local Billiards Store to purchase slate.
How much does 1 of the pieces of slate from a 7’ 3-piece slate AMF Playmaster table weigh? Also, is this a solid table? The one I’m looking at is $350.
Yes Craig, AMF makes a very good home style pool table. One of the pieces on a 7 foot three piece slate pool table will weigh about 125 pounds. Best, PTK.
My grandfather handed me down a 7ft bar table that was previously on a navy base, well while moving the one piece slate, we managed to break it and shatter it into pieces….. moving on …..is there anyway i can put a 3 piece slate on this table.to prevent the difficulty of moving a one piece slate?
Hi Jason, sorry to hear about your mishap. Unfortunately what you want to do is not very feasible because on a bar table the slate needs to be removed from the box to refelt it. If it’s a standard 7 ft bar table slate (43″x83″) these are readily available for purchase. Best wishes, PTK.
I’m picking up a 4 x 8 one piece 1” slate table. The frame looks like a basket case from the photo. My plan is to build a new table. I’m going to cut the slate into a three piece. I’ll be using a 7-1/4” worm drive skilsaw with a concrete diamond blade and a vacuum for dust and water cool if necessary. How do I prevent chipping? Any pointers?
Hey Will, sounds like a pretty involved plan but as long as you keep the same wooden perimeter around your slate then you’ll be fine. You will loose some material when cutting the 2 seams but it should only amount to about an 8th of an inch. Now if you are thinking about building a 7ft pool table then I believe you’d have a lot more cutting to do but as long as you end up with 3 pieces of slate that overall measure 46×86 you’re good to go.
Best of luck to you, PTK.
i got this pool table handed down from family i know its a slate and a eight footer its in a garage and i going to put in my garage i was going to rent this air ride trailer were it levels to the ground and i was going to to lift the table with a 4×6 with 2 jacks on each end and lift enough across bottom betwwen legs and put on car dollies than pull or push onto trailer than same procedure unloading what do you think
Hi Alex, if the pool table is a 1 piece slate then I’d say it is safe to use the methods you mentioned. If it is a 3 piece slate pool table the. You must be very careful about twisting the frame while moving it into and out of the trailer. Slow and steady should git er done!
Best wishes, PTK.
Just ran across anAMF 9’ Playmaster Pool Table by the pics it looks in real good condition refelted a year ago. It’s selling for $600 is that a good deal? Or is it a normal price. How could I send you a pic?
The slate cutting on the 8footer went without a hitch. The only thing was it’s 7/8” slate. It was an older Empire table with a ball return ( pool table or counter tops ).?
Yes Will, that’s a great table for the price. Sorry to hear that you’re scraping the 1 piece slate modified to 3 piece slate pool table but if you can get a 9 footer with less homework and headache more power to you!
Best wishes, PTK.
I was wondering if buying a table from the great escape is reliable. It’s a three piece slate, and I want to be sure if they install it it will be safe for the table.
Keeping the table covered with heavy duty marine grade Naugahyde cover will keep cloth from fading. The only thing to bring color back is new cloth.
Looking at a antique 12 foot table, wood and inlay in nice shape. new felt and rails. Somewhere along the way the three pieces of slate were cut in half, making it easier to move. Is this table worth my time ? Will I be able to level the the now 6 pieces of 2 foot wide slate? My plan is to attach a rail under the cuts in the slate and drill screw holes to rejoin the pieces to make it a three piece slate again. Your input and opinion are greatly anticipated ! Thank you !
Correction to dimensions in prior question, Should have read 9 foot table, having had the three 3 foot slate pieces cut into 18 wide
Six pieces of slate is something unheard of for a nine footer. If you are local, give us a call and we can chat about your options.
Hi Looking for some help re 8 ft 3piece AMF Playmaster. I am moving this and have removed all screws holding the slate down but the slate appears to be stuck to the frame. Is it just a little glue and should i just try to lift it carefully…just didnt want to force it or maybe be its heavier than i think and just need to have some help. Was just trying to break the slate from the frame so to speak (not actually breaking it obviously). Also the prior company that installed it put bondo over the counter sunk screws and i had a bitch of a time grinding the bondo out and picking out the bondo from the heads of the philips screws. When the co reinstalls should in insist they fill screw heads with wax if so any particular kind????
Take a utility knife and score the seams. It may be that the previous installer used Bondo (or possibly super glued) to seal the seams. Lift the end slate gently with a partner to release it from the frame. Good luck! We seal our seams and fill screw holes with pure beeswax.
Anyone looking for 3 piece slate for a full size table
Keep in mind different brands have different patterns of slate. Measurements might be different as well.
I got an odd one here had the moving company move my stuff into storage while the house is being built and only the slate came back and the rest of the pool table disappeared
It was or is a Brunswick table
I have a Cadillac one piece slate pool table that can b used for coin operation. How much do u think it is worth?
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We are replacing eight tables in an HOA rec center. How do we find high end tables that will take a lot of use and last over a 10-15 year cycle?
Doug, this is subject to style and size of pool table you are looking for. Should style not be a factor I would recommend going with a bar/pub style pool table with a one piece slate (assuming 7 or 8 ft pool table) if 9 foot is preferred the slate would then be in 3 pieces. I would contact Scott or Tom at Global Billiard MFG if you are interested in purchasing something commercial in nature. Whatever Global would build you would last at least 40 years. Please contact Global directly at 310-764-5000.
Best wishes, David.
Valley-Dynamo pool tables are the best for rough conditions
Chance, you may want to reach out to Valley – Dynamo in Richland Hills, TX in regards to location of a dealer who you can purchase a 43x83x3/4 inch slate. Best wishes, Dave
I have a 9’ Brunswick Monticello II 3piece slate pool table I am looking to get rid of
Hi, I have a 8×4 three piece slate table, and the brass label on top of the rail says” s.c. Scales & son” does anyone know of this brand
I put a shutter inside on the window after my table was installed. Now I keep banging into it when the cue ball is near the rail. It makes me angry and that in turn affects my billiard mojo. How can I safely move it only two inches? It is a three piece Brunswick.
Chuck, if you didn’t want to hire a professional billliard mechanic to handle this situation I’ll tell you what to do.
First thing will be to jack the pool table up from the long side. Lift it just enough to get some “sliding pads” under the 2 side legs then do same on other side. Carefully grasp the pool table slate from inside the left and right side corner pockets and gently slide into desired position and repeat on other end.
Re-jack and remove sliding pads and replace and shims that were present under the legs. The pool table should still be level.
Best wishes, David
I am looking for a one piece slate for a 7-foot valley bar table if any of y’all nowhere one maybe let me know I don’t want to use wood
I have as 4 1/2 by 9 ft 8 ball table it has 1 1/4 inch slate an the Brunswick label is burnt in To the end rail. Any one know what the year would be? Ty Leon bowman I have a 3 piece slate 8 ft table for sale sale if any is interested really it’s perfect shape
It’s hard to date based on only a description. Brunswick has a fairly large archive of old models on their website. I would start there. Good Luck.